The fact that there are multiple people in here believing both because “they were 3 years apart,” I don’t know whether that’s funny or sad.
I know I said gullible was written on the ceiling but that was a second before you looked up, now it’s written on the floor. Nope, you missed it again, back to the ceiling.
This is where you really gotta turn to that redsails article to explain how these people’s minds work:
In short: Westerners aren’t helpless innocents whose minds are injected with atrocity propaganda, science fiction-style; they’re generally smug bourgeois proletarians who intelligently seek out as much racist propaganda as they can get their hands on. This is because it fundamentally makes them feel better about who they are and how they live. The psychic and material costs are rationally worth the benefits.
Western propaganda is better understood in terms of “licensing”: the issuing of moral license for the bourgeois proletariat to profitably go along with bourgeois designs without the feeling of shame overwhelming. In this alternative account people aren’t “brainwashed” insofar as they don’t actually believe the lies, not in the way that we generally understand belief. It’s more correct to say that they go along with them
“But you don’t understand, the news man said I have permission to use this to make fun of North Korea. Why are you spoilsports trying to take away my fun?”
Critical thinking doesn’t enter into it at all.


The way this played out before in the interwar period was that the Nazis weren’t even in power (but growing) and the SDP was in a coalition with the center-right where they supported rearmament and then the center-right president (who had been supported by the SDP) appointed Hitler chancellor which allowed him to seize power and use those weapons against the rest of Europe.
The SDP has always been shit. They supported German entry into WWI (after pledging not to), they sent the freicorps to kill communists, they supported austerity policies during the Great Depression which discredited the left and caused people to look to the Nazis as an alternative, and they enabled Hitler’s rise to power. 150 years of being clowns.